Must rituals be followed exactly?
Sunday, April 14, 2013
Question of the Day? XV Rituals
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ReplyDeleteDan Brady Wiccan - not so much. High Magick - best to not screw up.
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Sam Lasco hey Edward William Rush.....sorry Ed your name did not come up for me to highlight it..
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Sam Lasco Hey Dan Brady truthfully I do not believe that with my whole hearth and soul. I think Wicca like very other religion is missing the point. A ceremony if done for conversation lets use Baptism whether you get dip in a lake, water and oil pour on your heads as a infant or taking a canteen full of water and blessing them is all good. Now for my statement about rituals, I will re-post all of this in blogger post but since asked here...you can not screw up a ritual!! a ritual is what you have created for a certain purpose......then reason BoS.....if you can prove any of Crowley's ritual are proven better yet anyone's except ones own. I am sure Crowley rituals worked for him but most defiantly not meant for anyone else. Another person ritual can not work for you use certain factors " same coven, same time said, same purpose" are taken in.
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Dan Brady Sam: In Wiccan magick, intent is sufficient - you're asking for help instead of commanding forces. With High Magick, you're using a science that few understand, and even fewer understand well, to control forces that aren't necessarily happy about it - you'd best dot your Is and cross your Ts.
It's kind of like the difference between cooking a stew and baking pastry. Cooking a stew, you're mostly blending flavors, and if you get experimental, it's unlikely to ruin dinner - it just might not be as good as it could have been. Baking pastry, there's some fairly complex chemical reactions you're working with, and if you goof up, the result may be wretched - you can only really wing it if you know exactly what you're doing, and why you're doing it.
I'm sure that the results I've been aware of from botched rituals have all been coincidence - but I've seen lots of coincidence. If you don't have a very good idea of what you're doing - tread carefully, and follow the flippin' recipe. It's a really, really bad place to get arrogant.
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Sam Lasco I understand about chemistry. I will concede about Crowley ( I used him for reference and I hope we are talking of the Old) and chemisty for the time being. I will never make a statement I can not support. You are absolutely correct about chemistry being highly volatile and extremely dangerous. Arrogant truly is not me if I appear arrogant then re-ask the question for surely I misunderstood it. I had no plans for today and my mentor will not be available to me until Tuesday but I will like to know what is said and since I have no knowledge and it is only the truth I except then again please accept my statement as being withdrawn......You have delighted me with something I did not think Crowley even knew. I will try to find some information to retort or re-apologies about the rituals that contain highly volatile substance my guts completely disagrees with you but agree we are talking about the top and not the average I hope. Since the average would not even understand this conversation. TBC.......I so happy you reply. Thank you Dan Brady for keeping me on my toes....I have no idea even where to start but it nice having a challenging subject, especially when you have special interest in it.
Well as I was thinking, my TV was on and either Cujo or I changed the channel. It was on acting as white noise I actually did not realize when it was change except when a program came on and on channel 11. Here was the debate. How the show works they give a topic and have sides and questions asked and answered then the audience vote to see the winner. The topic was Does Science Refute God? I listen with intensity. I always love an intelligent conversation. Plus I learn many thing I had no ideas. A question was asked about spiritual phenomena.......I think everyone has God powers it is up to us if we choose to use them...well... Evidence for Psychic Phenomena.......go to Google with that phase.......I do not believe in coincidences. That show was on for me to watch. Dan Brady sorta funny we had this conversation and this TV program came on. I am not asking if you believe in God that is your belief. However I think I want to go back to school. The scientist were explaining how the conscience mind has evolved. I did not even know there was a part of the brain I just assumed. If that part of the brain works and proves the things it does then I must challenge myself. I always knew to be of the mind and not the body...basic martial arts. The only question that was not asked which made me wonder if the whole show is fake. trust me I watch a TV show that explored that the Germans never had human ovens and they were used for cooking bread to feed the prisoners. LOL......anyway....I am not shocked of the outcome. I am shock that one question was not asked....the soul....which would of been easy for the scientist to disprove but yet during this whole highly intelligent debate was never asked....hmmmm.......my belief......mass media is controlled........I never believe anything and always challenge all but I do belief in my gut....is that my conscience?.....new questions, new everything, however how do you know what the truth is.... Wikipedia.....LOL I will leave you with
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